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Geez... what more can I say. The word DESIGN is in the title. Rant coming... read at your own risk.
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Actually, I don't know how one puts "Creative" & "Historical" together for a paper session on Design. I would imagine that this would take an entire conference to parse out so I won't try. I think that this was an arbitrary title... how does one corner the notion of creativity & drop it on top of history. Design Historians? Thoughts?
So here it is and then I will try to say no more for the remainder of this conference...
Members of the technical and engineering disciplines have a notion of what design is. These fields have traditionally interacted with a limited proportion of the broad scope of Design trades out there, not to mention the complete lack of integration with the design theory, art & architectural history, theory and criticism fields.
But Martin Wattenberg said something very interesting to me after this session...(not verbatim) "A mathematician, presenting at a CHI conference has the choice of saying "I am a mathematician at a CHI conference", or attempting to model their language and examples after many others in the CHI world. " I agree with him, if you are participating in a community, you should either accept the mores of that community or clearly state the differences.
Other Categories: CHI2006
architectures!!!! DESIGN!!!!???? What a shame it is that those in the CHI field still feel a necessity to encroach (or worse absorb!!) the field of design without giving anything back to the DESIGN community. I lay no claim to the field of design nor to the field of CHI, HHI, Organizational Psychology, etc. etc.... so to hear a panel suggest that the field of design CAN be simply absorbed or relegated to FORM is horrific!
The members of this panel should do a little more research into the term DESIGN before they start integrating it OR relegating it.
SHAME.
(notes further on).
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- I am frustrated that the use of the term "Architecture" and "Design" seems so limited when used at the CHI Conference. This is particularly disappointing because of the claims that many at the conference seem to be making suggests a very broad participation in the same realm as many more in the Design trades.
John Carroll (U. Mich.) suggested that the faculty at their I.School participate in the committees of graduate students at other schools.
the question of technique as these fields converge
when a performance evaluation of research in an integrated field is made, what is the criteriaused? - where should it come from? is it
Betya Friedman - "We also engage lightweight design"
what is lighter weight design?!
The scope of design used here seems very limited.
what is the applicability of i-schools in the physical design environment beyond product design? (i.e. urban design, architecture, landscape architecture)
Alistair Sutcliffe
HCI Drives 'design in the small' or 'design in the large' - CMC, CSCW, SOCIAL COMPUTING, etc. - Another opportunity to NOT rebuild the wheel... missed.
- He seems to suggest that HCI should "claim" product design.
An underlying theme of this panel is the question of "professionalism" vs. "academia" and "technique" vs. "theory". Many design schools have been grappling with these same questions for so very long. It is interesting to see another into the field enter the fray but it also concerns me that the discourses show no sign of converging.
I would challenge the HCI community AND the broader Design community to engage the issue collaboratively to engender the types of questions that both seem to be asking.
Other Categories: CHI2006
SO... I'll try to keep a running log today. Yesterday was too hectic. {edited: I am obviously not keeping a running log... sorry}
Other Categories: Event Notes
Roundtable discussion with Mark Jarzombek (MIT), Mark Goulthorpe (MIT), Joe MacDonald (GSD), Antoine Picon (GSD).
Event Website Here
The primary question...
Throughout the history of Design the concept of "ornament" has swayed back and forth from appeal to revulsion. With the almost complete saturation of digital media into our design culture, what role does, can, or will the notion of ornament play? What is critical about ornament in the digital age?
Read more for notes...
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great point... scale in digital media
the unregarded art... ornament has always been background
red dot on the prada shoe
social aesthetic vs. formal aesthetic
'greg lynn... "i am an art neauvou architect" ' - (i say blech!)
we have the pleasure but I am not sure we have the aesthetic yet
pacific design center-
the narrowing of the field of design causes an upwelling of ornamnet sometimes? ...what happens indeed!
Mark Goulthorpe says that he approaches formism... not formalism.
Mark Jarzombeck says that as amiable as that ambition may seem, it is still a dialectic and therefore the voice of the designer cannot be ignored.
... after some discussion of Derrida, Dialectics, and the question of Ornament... Professor Jarzombeck raised the issue of ornament as an act of violence...( previously he intertjected a point about the fact that he would rather be the criminal than the victim!!)... AWESOME
[ correction: Mark Jarzombek actually said "I'd rather be the criminal than the policeman, meaning something like I'd rather be in favor of ornament than structure..... But actually want to get rid of both.."]
great point... in what way can ornament become an act of violence : Jarzombeck
using the agency of the computer to involve them in the process
digital tooling vs. craft
lost the connection... one second you are part of the world... the next.. you are all alone :(
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ahhh back in the world...
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unpredictable situations huh... (Antoine Picon)... the ornament is full of surprise.
Joe MacDonald... troubled by the aliatory... removal of the author... irresponsible... even useless! Whoa.
(My opinion is that this suggests that algorithm is not authored)... and i completely disagree
now they are discussing unpredictability... great addition to the discussion... if they are are planning on bringing it back to the question of ornament?
M.Jarzombek: "I want to live in a world where the dialectical project still haunts us. [But at that moment, we need to address the notion of object... more specifically, the crisis of the object.]"
A.Picon: "[But] how does what we do [as architects] get interpreted by society."
J.MacDonald:"It is ultimately by the reception of form that it is proven."
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so after structure, the object, and structure... we have landed at the profession...
conflation between disciplines - between professions?
- i don't know if it is problematic but I would wonder whether the other fields think the same?
Other Categories: Thesis Points
Perhaps there is a way to develop a (xml?) syntax for analyzing the types of interactions between people and displays. EvXML - event-xml. This would be a more specific way of thinking about the types of interaction, types of displays, task scenarios, and group sizes...
Thoughts?
Other Categories: Thesis Points
When a new kind of medium is used to present an idea to a group of people, it seems important to acknowledge that it could fundamentally change the way that the idea is perceived by the group. Within classroom environments, this point could be vital in improving the way that people interact. An example that is expressed using images, explained through discourse, could provide a way of enriching language.
